A pretty rediculous ban
Posted: Tue 18 Oct , 2016 4:42 pm
This is in relation to this ban (viewtopic.php?f=20&t=3597), which has been completely mis-represented, and I'm hoping can be a learning experience for all.
Most notably, the lesson of, If when admins come on and the overall enjoyment of the server decreases, that person isn't being a good admin. My experience is mostly CS based in different irritations - probably since the age of 15 to now, 26 years old. Overall, I'd expect for a game with a decreasing player population, you'd try your best to keep people on the server. Not drive them away because an admin felt personally insulted.
Yesterday, 17th October, after a map change, intimately at the start of the game I swapped sides. No one was forced to the other side, I didn't abuse spectator. Hell, I wanted to play along side people I know on the server. Generally, no big harm. I've seen people do it before.
Mid way through the game, Eiforia, who had been present at the start of the game complains that I had switched, and that I would be kicked. This is where mine and Eif's accounts differ on his Ban record - he states I was warned, I was told I was going to be kicked. Now In my experience, a kick isn't a warning, it's punishment. It seems there is no reasoning trying to explain anything (my perspective as I said above) to him, in what seems to be the typical "The Admin is Always Right" approach. I didn't compare all admins to being a far-right nationalistic group, I merely suggested his own personal approach was somewhat of said disposition. I.E Hes being overall quite harsh in the servers common vernacular. Again such language has been used before on the server. I'm not a first, but clearly a case where people have been banned.
I'll admit, calling Eif a Nazi was a short tempered approach to what I perceived to be an undue punishment. But at the same time, if you don't give people respect and dish out punishments, people will call you slightly tolaritarian in the gaming communities vernacular, which in this instance was Nazi.
Overall, I feel Eif handled this particularity badly. If he'd explained why he felt switching at the beginning was bad, rather than saying I was going to be kicked, this would be all very different. The ban will be over soon, so I don't really care for being un-banned immediately, But what I would like is for admins not to be so ban happy. Servers work because they feel they own a little bit of it, giving people an attachment to being a long standing, and productive memberships. If you ban people because 1. you feel personally insulted (come on, grow a thicker skin), or 2. because it's the only way you know how to dish out authority on the server, then you may want to take a step back into the more technical side of server administration.
I hope lessons could, and can be learned on both sides here.
Most notably, the lesson of, If when admins come on and the overall enjoyment of the server decreases, that person isn't being a good admin. My experience is mostly CS based in different irritations - probably since the age of 15 to now, 26 years old. Overall, I'd expect for a game with a decreasing player population, you'd try your best to keep people on the server. Not drive them away because an admin felt personally insulted.
Yesterday, 17th October, after a map change, intimately at the start of the game I swapped sides. No one was forced to the other side, I didn't abuse spectator. Hell, I wanted to play along side people I know on the server. Generally, no big harm. I've seen people do it before.
Mid way through the game, Eiforia, who had been present at the start of the game complains that I had switched, and that I would be kicked. This is where mine and Eif's accounts differ on his Ban record - he states I was warned, I was told I was going to be kicked. Now In my experience, a kick isn't a warning, it's punishment. It seems there is no reasoning trying to explain anything (my perspective as I said above) to him, in what seems to be the typical "The Admin is Always Right" approach. I didn't compare all admins to being a far-right nationalistic group, I merely suggested his own personal approach was somewhat of said disposition. I.E Hes being overall quite harsh in the servers common vernacular. Again such language has been used before on the server. I'm not a first, but clearly a case where people have been banned.
I'll admit, calling Eif a Nazi was a short tempered approach to what I perceived to be an undue punishment. But at the same time, if you don't give people respect and dish out punishments, people will call you slightly tolaritarian in the gaming communities vernacular, which in this instance was Nazi.
Overall, I feel Eif handled this particularity badly. If he'd explained why he felt switching at the beginning was bad, rather than saying I was going to be kicked, this would be all very different. The ban will be over soon, so I don't really care for being un-banned immediately, But what I would like is for admins not to be so ban happy. Servers work because they feel they own a little bit of it, giving people an attachment to being a long standing, and productive memberships. If you ban people because 1. you feel personally insulted (come on, grow a thicker skin), or 2. because it's the only way you know how to dish out authority on the server, then you may want to take a step back into the more technical side of server administration.
I hope lessons could, and can be learned on both sides here.
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