Something needs to be done with the excessive language bans.

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What to do with language offences?

Replace the bans with mutes so we still have players playing (Mutes)
18
82%
Lower the ban duration so they still will feel the boot of justice (1 day bans)
1
5%
Keep the bans as they are, server is going to die anyways (Full lenght bans)
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9%
Thats not my problem (Not care)
1
5%
 
Total votes: 22

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Something needs to be done with the excessive language bans.

Post by Socio » Sun 04 Sep , 2016 3:07 pm

Following the ban of our regular player, Killer*Squirrel which in my opinion is ridiculous and biased, and the fact that the game is 12 years of old, playerbase keeps getting thinner and thinner with a lot of old regulars gone. Language bans of 7 days and especially 30 day and permanent ones, feel down right unnecessary for 1-2 words that don't put any impact on the gameplay.
I vote for either having them toned down to normal 1 day bans, as by game standards they are really minor offences (we are not a country, there is no reason for us to treat people typing "sieg hail" as criminals). Or simply replace the bans with proper lenght mutes.
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Re: Something needs to be done with the excessive language bans.

Post by giZmo » Sun 04 Sep , 2016 8:18 pm

Placing the poll in general discussions is making the result invalid right from the start cause everyone is being able to vote.
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Re: Something needs to be done with the excessive language bans.

Post by Calypto » Sun 04 Sep , 2016 8:26 pm

It's best to ban everyone so we won't have any more issues.

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Post by iRobot » Mon 05 Sep , 2016 1:01 pm

Calypto wrote:It's best to ban everyone so we won't have any more issues.
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Re: Something needs to be done with the excessive language bans.

Post by Socio » Tue 06 Sep , 2016 3:05 pm

giZmo wrote:Placing the poll in general discussions is making the result invalid right from the start cause everyone is being able to vote.
And why's that? It's something that affects all players, so I think it should be taken as a majority decission.
Unless you mean that some players are worse kind and that makes their voting is invalid. On what trait do you base what players aren't allowed to vote?
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Re: Something needs to be done with the excessive language bans.

Post by taries » Tue 06 Sep , 2016 3:57 pm

Mute is fine solution, if the player will start doing bs in game after being muted like TK,ram or make swastika from vehicles, then just ban him.

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Re: Something needs to be done with the excessive language bans.

Post by Earl_Vencar.:LLS:. » Tue 06 Sep , 2016 4:17 pm

Why should we let people who haven't even purchased the game decide the server rules?
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Re: Something needs to be done with the excessive language bans.

Post by Azarael » Tue 06 Sep , 2016 4:35 pm

You don't let players vote on punishments in a poll because you don't know their bias.

The discussion should rather be on the topic of why the language bans exist and whether the level of punishment for violations is justified. 9 times out of 10 the language violations are from people who are more than capable of speaking English.

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Re: Something needs to be done with the excessive language bans.

Post by Greedisgood » Tue 06 Sep , 2016 6:53 pm

The topic name is misleading. I believe that it refers to verbal abuse exclusively, foreign language rule is rarely enforced anyway, except for the cases when the players actually become annoying and ignore the warnings.

Talking about the verbal abuse, i think that moving to small warning mutes would actually have a positive impact on the server culture since they are not that much of a decision comparing to "outright week-long ban vs forgiving occasional misbehaviour".
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Re: Something needs to be done with the excessive language bans.

Post by iRobot » Tue 06 Sep , 2016 7:59 pm

Earl_Vencar.:LLS:. wrote:Why should we let people who haven't even purchased the game decide the server rules?
I don't like pirates as much as the next guy but without them there would be no server at all, unless you like playing vs AI bots.

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