Ballistic Bro Changelogs Discussion

[Aberiu]

m925 nerf shouldn't have affected deployed mode. All the rage was coming from close range encounters leading to instant kills with 3-4 shots, hitting a target at mid or far range was already quite difficult. The problem is, you don't use a deployed machine gun in close combat. Also I wasn't following the recent changes but it feels like deployed machine gunner is vulnerable to almost everything - explosives, energy weapons, sniper rifles. Weakening this mode even more wasn't really necessary imo.

[Aberiu]

Much more accurate when suppressed
Reduced damage loss over range

I appreciate the new changelog format, but can I whine about my favorite shotgun a little bit? It's still ~30 damage per shot on direct hit (used to be 100). Just like CYLO FS, only CYLO shoots in bursts, has 4 times more ammo and can be reloaded way faster. The X-007 bolt is strong, but it just doesn't feel right to choose a shotgun for spamming altfire projectile.
>50% damage reduction is really the kind of change that requires an explanation.

[Azarael]

Damage=10
TraceCount=9

simulated function SwitchSilencerMode(bool bSilenced)
{
if (bSilenced)
{
XInaccuracy = 96;
YInaccuracy = 96;
RecoilPerShot *= 0.65;
Damage *= 0.7;
RangeAtten *= 1.45;
}

else
{
XInaccuracy=default.XInaccuracy;
YInaccuracy=default.YInaccuracy;
RecoilPerShot=default.RecoilPerShot;
Damage = default.Damage;
RangeAtten = default.RangeAtten;
}
}

RangeAtten is a scaler for the amount of damage done over range. 1.45 is used here to cause the long-range damage to remain constant regardless of suppression state.

[Aberiu]

Sorry but I don't understand anything when it comes to programming. Suppressed mk781 deals around 30-40 damage per shot at melee range. Some assault rifles can do better.

[Azarael]

This is a bug. Testing now.

Yep, two calls to SwitchSilencer nerf the damage beyond what's expected. I didn't write that code, however.

[Definitelynotjay]

Is it intended that the XRS-10 is so damn effective at close range? It is currently dealing 60 or so damage on headshots, with an incredibly fast fire rate.

[Butcher]

Is it intended that the XRS-10 is so damn effective at close range? It is currently dealing 60 or so damage on headshots, with an incredibly fast fire rate.

use it
...I recall when you could dual wield it... was awsome...

[Skaldy]

What's the general impression with relative thaw, now it has been live for a while?

It doesn't seem too bad to me, although I seem to be frozen a bit longer (but that's probably because I die too much in general anyway). Basically, I'm interested whether:

* lower-skilled players are finding the game pace more hectic, and therefore less boring (hopefully)
* overtime is being reached more often (hopefully not)
* the match balance is being affected, with greater or fewer 6-0s and 6-1s (hopefully no change)
etc.

Yesterday's recent limitation to 50% faster than 7.XX seems sensible - I think nets were actually higher because there were more lower-skilled available to kill more often. Game theory is a complex and wonderful thing.

[Azarael]

I can answer for the second: match length was being affected. Overtime was becoming the only way to win a round because it was impossible for a team to keep all the enemy players frozen for long enough during normal time.

[iRobot]

Can you opt out? Some of the lower skilled players might not want to be thawed twice as quickly and just be cannon fodder for the rest.