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Re: French VS English
Posted: Sun 07 Jul , 2013 11:06 pm
by Pinky
Donnie wrote:someone deleted my post

According to the log you did it

Re: French VS English
Posted: Sun 07 Jul , 2013 11:16 pm
by Pinky
Izumo_CZ wrote:Well this "competition" sucks when you're in France and can't speak French or not fluent in German. They don't know English very much outside the tourist zones

German is mostly a no-go in France. English sometimes works. However, what I learned from my visits in France so far is: many French people just refuse to talk to you in English. Even if they perfectly understand you they just keep on talking to you in French.
Re: French VS English
Posted: Mon 08 Jul , 2013 4:43 am
by focus
Global language? Either if you are talking in english or french, you are member
of a group with 403,5 millon speakers, for whom those languages are the first.
Tell all chinese speakers (848 million) that they have to forget their language and to start
speak english. Or tell it to spanish speakers (406 million).
If we're introducing one global language for everybody, we all should now start to study hieroglyphs.
And by the time of actual introduction, we will just be ready
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_la ... f_speakers
Re: French VS English
Posted: Mon 08 Jul , 2013 9:25 am
by Butcher
In France my experience was that most people will not answer to you if you speak in English, even if they understand what you say... Is funny, they change their behavior if you speak in another language besides English... for instance, you say something in Spanish and they will respond with a smile

... talk in English and the will ignore you...

Re: French VS English
Posted: Mon 08 Jul , 2013 10:56 am
by ZioFede
There are pricks in every nation unfortunately.
Re: French VS English
Posted: Mon 08 Jul , 2013 10:59 am
by iRobot
True that. Just most of them are west Europe.
Re: French VS English
Posted: Mon 08 Jul , 2013 1:57 pm
by Azarael
focus wrote:Global language? Either if you are talking in english or french, you are member
of a group with 403,5 millon speakers, for whom those languages are the first.
Tell all chinese speakers (848 million) that they have to forget their language and to start
speak english. Or tell it to spanish speakers (406 million).
If we're introducing one global language for everybody, we all should now start to study hieroglyphs.
And by the time of actual introduction, we will just be ready
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_la ... f_speakers
I don't mind if Spanish is the world language, but it must absolutely not be a character-based Asian language for a simple reason: they are difficult and inefficient. There's honestly no sense, if standardising language, to pick the most difficult one simply because more people speak it.
Re: French VS English
Posted: Mon 08 Jul , 2013 2:08 pm
by iRobot
Saying 'most people speak it' is misleading anyway. Sure, by number they might have the most, but it's only one region of the planet that speaks Chinese.
When you take English, French or Spanish, large chunks of the planet speak variations of each, and not just one population base.
Re: French VS English
Posted: Mon 08 Jul , 2013 4:50 pm
by Calypto
who needs languages anyway
Re: French VS English
Posted: Mon 08 Jul , 2013 4:54 pm
by focus
1. Difficult and inefficient? They are such for us. Our cultures are very different,
that's why we percieve them this way. But from the point of view of average chinese man,
very english can be viewed as difficult. Remember, their hieroglyphs are signs for whole notions.
And in english - words serve for this purpose. As a result, complexity do not differ that much. Anyway
one have to learn thousands of words/hieroglyphs.
2. 'most people speak it' is misleading? Language is a thing that have any use only for humans. Not birds, or
other fauna. Size of territories, where language is spoken at, doesnt matter that much. We simply must to look at
masses of very people who will use language.
But will they use it? One global language? Sure not. Some communities are anti-globalists. They appreciate their
very uniqueness. And surely, they will oppose by any means to propagation of such kind of language. Like what we see in France.