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Re: Skill system

Posted: Wed 31 Jul , 2013 7:21 pm
by Oska
As far as I know Aapchen was owning everyone using the XK2 too when you "fixed" the M46.

And you guys know nothing about why he has stopped playing nor if he is going to play again or not. All you know is that he has left a server where the atmosphere got worse (like Pinky specified). He had no fun playing on this server anymore so he stopped playing, so did quite a few players.

But I don't think that his usual 7X% in ictf makes him a bad player, claiming that he was good only because he was using a "bugged" M46 is extremely lame and poor.

Re: Skill system

Posted: Wed 31 Jul , 2013 7:23 pm
by iRobot
Pinky wrote:
Izumo_CZ wrote:I would like to know why the people voted for hiding it
Because I'm already ranked by just two numbers in my professional life. I don't need this here too. Besides, since the introduction of the skill system, all this crap talk about high and low skillers didn't really improved the atmosphere on the server - in fact it got worse (but that's just MHO)
I agree with this completely, as I posted earlier, it damages the social interaction and atmosphere of the server highly. I wish the whole thing was removed completely or hidden so nobody knew who was what.

Re: Skill system

Posted: Wed 31 Jul , 2013 7:33 pm
by Azarael
I will say anything as long as it is true, and as you know, I didn't have any respect for the XK2 as it was before the hipfire expansion nerf.

Re: Skill system

Posted: Wed 31 Jul , 2013 7:35 pm
by Capaco
iRobot wrote:
Pinky wrote:
Izumo_CZ wrote:I would like to know why the people voted for hiding it
Because I'm already ranked by just two numbers in my professional life. I don't need this here too. Besides, since the introduction of the skill system, all this crap talk about high and low skillers didn't really improved the atmosphere on the server - in fact it got worse (but that's just MHO)
I agree with this completely, as I posted earlier, it damages the social interaction and atmosphere of the server highly. I wish the whole thing was removed completely or hidden so nobody knew who was what.

Balancer should use data in background, nothing more. But you know my opinion.

Re: Skill system

Posted: Wed 31 Jul , 2013 7:42 pm
by Oska
;'D'D

And everybody knows that you only speak the truth joinha

But you are right. Aapchen is a lame noob who took advantage of bugs so he could be good. In fact he was just super noob and couldn't hit a steady cow with a HAMR.
Keep it up and bitch moar. Every single weapon that he used was OP and you thanksfully nerfed them all now. But you have obvisouly never used any weapon that are now considered as OP, you are far too good to lower yourself to that kind of things.

Re: Skill system

Posted: Wed 31 Jul , 2013 7:55 pm
by Azarael
I guess medical students don't require many critical thinking skills. Point me to where I said Aapchen is a noob. Aapchen came to this server with the intent of playing it as he would play standard UT2004. He played with weapons hidden and with the UT2004 crosshair. Because of this, he gravitated towards weapons which were hipfire strong or hipfire OP. Such players don't get much respect on this server from me because hipfire is by nature inaccurate - something similar happens towards people who whore the Minigun in standard UT.

Re: Skill system

Posted: Wed 31 Jul , 2013 8:00 pm
by iZumo
Azarael wrote:I guess medical students don't require many critical thinking skills. Point me to where I said Aapchen is a noob. Aapchen came to this server with the intent of playing it as he would play standard UT2004. He played with weapons hidden and with the UT2004 crosshair. Because of this, he gravitated towards weapons which were hipfire strong or hipfire OP. Such players don't get much respect on this server from me because hipfire is by nature inaccurate - something similar happens towards people who whore the Minigun in standard UT.
Hold on a minute, you went into becoming a minigun whore and was crying tears that it sucks (due to tickrate dependency) when it comes to standard weapon balance adjustments. And also AR with incredible high amount of ammo.

Re: Skill system

Posted: Wed 31 Jul , 2013 8:02 pm
by Oska
I don't know about medical students (:

What I know is that you direclty implied that his skill was only due to the fact that he used OP weapons, which you apparently have never used. You must be the only player who has never used a weapons which has been nerfed (:

And please take care of your brain before thinking about mine, I'm perfectly fine don't worry. Thanks for caring though :*

Re: Skill system

Posted: Wed 31 Jul , 2013 8:03 pm
by Azarael
Nice misrepresentation.

I strongly dislike the standard minigun because it's OP, it has outrageous DPS and it's inaccurate. I accurized it and gave it range attenuation instead, nerfed the pri and buffed the unused alt. However, your adjustments to the weapon balance mod made it completely useless and accordingly it's now obscured entirely by the Pulse Carbine.

As for the AR, useless starter weapons are useless and that's why it was buffed (accurised, actually). The Enforcer was far more useful in comparison and if we had a mutator for a UT2004 Enforcer or Automag I'd encourage its use as a superior option.

@Oska: I can say that his skill is above his actual level of Ballistic play if he's using an OP weapon - as the M46 de facto was compared to every other assault rifle. Whether it's off by a small amount or a large amount was not stated and therefore your comment is ridiculous. Additionally, as I am the balancer, I must use every weapon - I'm prevented from dedicating myself to the use of only a limited section, so leveling such an accusation at me is also pointless.

Re: Skill system

Posted: Wed 31 Jul , 2013 8:23 pm
by Oska
The fact is that you keep on saying that Aapchen was only good because of the OP-ness of the weapons he used.
Although the fact that he constantly gets a 7X% effi in ictf is meaningless for you.

But eh you are right: all of my comments are ridiculous. It's well known that you have the only valuable opinion on here which gives you the right to say such things.


Although I think you should stick to the point raised by Pinky without forgetting that this stinky atmosphere is mainly due some people nagging everyone by sneaky comments like "killed by a 4.xx" or "muuuh skill" or "lowskiller" every single day.