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Re: Ridiculous ban
Posted: Sat 22 Jun , 2013 5:03 pm
by Pelaaja
a) So if there were bots with lets say green skins you would have banned me for calling them greenboys?
b) You are clearly wrong here because i saw them in my screen and someone else must have seen them too because i wasn't the one who killed them.
c) whether it was spelled whiteboys or white boys has nothing to do with this. It was not meant to be racist in any way.
Re: Ridiculous ban
Posted: Sat 22 Jun , 2013 5:04 pm
by iRobot
No, because greenboys is not a racist term. What a ridiculous angle to argue.
Re: Ridiculous ban
Posted: Sat 22 Jun , 2013 5:14 pm
by Pelaaja
iRobot wrote:No, because greenboys is not a racist term. What a ridiculous angle to argue.
He said he banned be because i used the color of the skin of the bot to refer to them. How is that different from calling my opponent blueboys or redboys as thats the color of their skin. I have never seen anyone being banned for that.
Re: Ridiculous ban
Posted: Sat 22 Jun , 2013 5:17 pm
by Azarael
If it's not necessary to comment on the color of someone's skin and you do so anyway, that makes me suspicious. Further research led to the finding that "white boy" is a slur and the unnatural contraction of it to "whiteboy", as I've seen being used, makes the meaning unambiguous. Unless you intend to argue that you routinely omit the space between adjectives and nouns for a lot of other words, I've no reason to consider that this wasn't usage of a racial slur.
Re: Ridiculous ban
Posted: Sat 22 Jun , 2013 5:29 pm
by iZumo
iRobot wrote:Questioning integrity is an attack on someones character.
Well I had seen this as calling a judge to be biased is a common practice. Sorry then, we'll go private.
Azarael wrote:a) If you commented on the bots by the color of their skin it's already racism.
Racism is defined by discriminating someone based on their race though. Besides, bots have not race ...
Azarael wrote:b) I *KNOW* there is no chance of you seeing a bot with the default texture in the modern LDG server.
This is false actually. The cause is screwed up netcode for pawns driving a vehicle and spawning a "non-moving ghost", which may cause them to wear default texture under some occasions, persumably when the player had custom skin. This issue is purely clientside, whether other players had them or not is completely irrelevant. Since he mentioned the bots as "doing nothing" it can be safely implied this was the case.
Azarael wrote:c) "whiteboys" was conjoined.
That is indeed the main issue here.
Pelaaja wrote:c) whether it was spelled whiteboys or white boys has nothing to do with this. It was not meant to be racist in any way.
Surely this would be without debate if you said "niggers" instead of "black boys" should the skin of the bot be pure black.
Re: Ridiculous ban
Posted: Sat 22 Jun , 2013 5:33 pm
by Azarael
a) was a poor choice of words. "Referring to skin color where it is unnecessary to do so causes me to suspect racism" is what I should have said.
Also, the bubble texture is creamy-grey.
Re: Ridiculous ban
Posted: Sat 22 Jun , 2013 5:35 pm
by Pelaaja
I called them whiteboys because i didnt understand why there were white bots standing in blue/red spawnpoint so clearly it was necessary to refer to then as white. What i described was a strange behaviour of the game and wanted to ask people if this was normal in the server because i have never seen it before.
Re: Ridiculous ban
Posted: Sat 22 Jun , 2013 5:37 pm
by Azarael
Why did you conjoin the words?
Re: Ridiculous ban
Posted: Sat 22 Jun , 2013 5:39 pm
by iZumo
Azarael wrote:a) was a poor choice of words. "Referring to skin color where it is unnecessary to do so causes me to suspect racism" is what I should have said.
Also, the bubble texture is creamy-grey.
I see. Well the bubble texture is light enough though.
Re: Ridiculous ban
Posted: Sat 22 Jun , 2013 6:32 pm
by Pelaaja
I paid no attention to whether it was conjoined or not. It made no difference to me.