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Re: Opinions on stalling matches in OLDZ
Posted: Mon 04 Nov , 2013 1:32 am
by Socio
BabyDontHurtMeNoMore wrote:If you remove the Ion Tank for BOTH teams, I would agree with you, but in this case on Team had no IonTank (and one player less) while the other team still had their tank and made use of it on their turn.
So in other words, he didnt stall the game, he just sabotaged one team. And sabotage/teamkilling is well in OLDZ no rules region.
Why are we prolonging this again?
Fallen wrote: And considering votings: I bet 95% of the people that voted the map voted it because because it said RACE and the name included CAT. Reason enough for many to vote it.
Thats how people vote stuff around here,
RACE-somethingsomething or AS-somethingsomething
Race 
Re: Opinions on stalling matches in OLDZ
Posted: Mon 04 Nov , 2013 1:36 am
by proof
Socio wrote:So in other words, he didnt stall the game, he just sabotaged one team.
sabotaging one team = stalling the game
Re: Opinions on stalling matches in OLDZ
Posted: Mon 04 Nov , 2013 1:40 am
by Nardaq_NL
Fallen wrote:Baby, trust me I probably enjoy OLDz more than you do.
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the map becomes almost impossible,
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well said indeed, almost....not imposible
oh plzzz stop trying bout CatRaisTrack, 6 defenders camping outside with fun benders is more or less the same and there are plenty more examples.
If allowed, if guess what ill be doing if next OLDZ on on

....specially in AS maps.
Azarael wrote:Not rustled at all, Nardaq. I don't play OLDZ in any form
Since CatRace is gone now, it's a moot point anyway.
can we have helbenderrace HSP modded V2 back in return?
gravity vortex gun and jetpack

Re: Opinions on stalling matches in OLDZ
Posted: Mon 04 Nov , 2013 1:44 am
by Azarael
Not rustled at all, Nardaq. I don't play OLDZ in any form
Since CatRace is gone now, it's a moot point anyway.
Re: Opinions on stalling matches in OLDZ
Posted: Mon 04 Nov , 2013 1:47 am
by bOnO
Remove the map, problem solved. However even in OLDZ, people hampering key vehicles and throwing benders out of base should be punished. I don't think it's enjoyable for anybody.
Re: Opinions on stalling matches in OLDZ
Posted: Mon 04 Nov , 2013 1:50 am
by iRobot
Re: Opinions on stalling matches in OLDZ
Posted: Mon 04 Nov , 2013 1:52 am
by Socio
True, it is the same, but I understand stalling as taking the a key vehicle and camping without doing the objective or taking attackers combat advantage vehicle (compare it Hellbender on Hera, not critical for objectives but makes it easier for attackers to breach through the defense lines) and also camping with it. Basicly it is making the attackers round last longer. While sabotage is like giving attackers Manta and/or Raptor on GOD-DeathRace so they can fly to do the objectives, therefore shortening the defenders time during round change.
Thats how I understand those in game *shrug*
Re: Opinions on stalling matches in OLDZ
Posted: Mon 04 Nov , 2013 1:59 am
by Socio
Nardaq_NL wrote:can we have helbenderrace HSP modded V2 back in return?
gravity vortex gun and jetpack


Re: Opinions on stalling matches in OLDZ
Posted: Mon 04 Nov , 2013 2:00 am
by Azarael
You don't get anything "in return" for the removal of a map which is shit, and which you should not miss.
Re: Opinions on stalling matches in OLDZ
Posted: Mon 04 Nov , 2013 2:09 am
by proof
bOnO wrote:However even in OLDZ, people hampering key vehicles and throwing benders out of base should be punished. I don't think it's enjoyable for anybody.
This.
-Taking
the key vehicle and not doing the objectice (as in LegoWars / last objective / Levi)
-Taking the power Core and run somewhere else with it / go hide and go afk (as in TheCanyon / last objective)
-Taking
a key vehicle and blocking it (as in BallxOwnage / obj with sentinels / Levi)
-Blocking a path with another vehicle (as in HellbenderWorld / the ramps on first obj)
-Throwing vehicles outside of base
Those are examples of what I count as stalling the game. Some are more crucial than others but all of them should be punished in OLDZ just like in AS and RACE imo.