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Re: Ridiculous ban

Posted: Sat 22 Jun , 2013 6:50 pm
by Pelaaja
Izumo_CZ wrote:
Pelaaja wrote:c) whether it was spelled whiteboys or white boys has nothing to do with this. It was not meant to be racist in any way.
Surely this would be without debate if you said "niggers" instead of "black boys" should the skin of the bot be pure black.
As i wrote above to me saying whiteboys or white boys had no difference. I dont see how you can compare this to saying niggers or black men.

Re: Ridiculous ban

Posted: Sat 22 Jun , 2013 6:58 pm
by Azarael
Not buying it. You said "whiteboys". Not "white boys", "whiteboys". Unless you've a solid explanation for why you said "whiteboys", which is ALWAYS a racial slur in this language when the two words are made as one, you're on a hiding to nothing.

Re: Ridiculous ban

Posted: Sat 22 Jun , 2013 7:06 pm
by iRobot
Pelaaja wrote:As i wrote above to me saying whiteboys or white boys had no difference. I dont see how you can compare this to saying niggers or black men.
Can directly compare, whiteboys/niggers are both polar opposite racial slurs.

Racism isnt exclusive to black people.

Re: Ridiculous ban

Posted: Sat 22 Jun , 2013 7:07 pm
by Pelaaja
As i mentioned before im not native in english. I had no idea whiteboys/white boys is something racist.

Re: Ridiculous ban

Posted: Sat 22 Jun , 2013 7:08 pm
by Spectre
Since people get banned for using 'nigga' in a teasing, friendly way, it seems to me that the rules don't care about what you mean, just about what you say. And if you happened to not know whiteboy held such an offensive meaning, well... you learned something new today. Ignorance is no defense.

Re: Ridiculous ban

Posted: Sat 22 Jun , 2013 7:09 pm
by Azarael
The fundamental question remains though: "whiteboys" is an incredibly contrived term to use when you're trying to describe, as you claim, default-skinned, buggy bots. Why did you feel the need to specify they were white? Why call them boys when they are not? Why join the two words together, given that you clearly understand English well enough to know that adjectives do not merge with nouns?

Additionally, relict also picked up on it immediately:

> Pelaaja: why is spawn full of stupid looking whiteboys?
> relict: racist
> relict: :o

Re: Ridiculous ban

Posted: Sat 22 Jun , 2013 7:21 pm
by Pelaaja
Azarael wrote:The fundamental question remains though: "whiteboys" is an incredibly contrived term to use when you're trying to describe, as you claim, default-skinned, buggy bots. Why did you feel the need to specify they were white? Why call them boys when they are not? Why join the two words together, given that you clearly understand English well enough to know that adjectives do not merge with nouns?

Additionally, relict also picked up on it immediately:

> Pelaaja: why is spawn full of stupid looking whiteboys?
> relict: racist
> relict: :o
Seems like we're going in circles since i've already answered these questions.

They were white and they were male in a game where white skins should not exists. I referred to them as whiteboys as thats what they looked like. I've never heard the term whiteboys being used as a racist remark.

Re: Ridiculous ban

Posted: Sat 22 Jun , 2013 7:22 pm
by Azarael
Why didn't you challenge relict or act confused in any way when he replied with "racist"?

Why did you conjoin the two words?

This last question is CRITICAL, because it is in joining the two words together that "whiteboy" becomes, unambiguously, a racial slur. If you cannot answer this question you aren't going to get anywhere.

Re: Ridiculous ban

Posted: Sat 22 Jun , 2013 7:35 pm
by Pelaaja
Pelaaja wrote:I paid no attention to whether it was conjoined or not. It made no difference to me.

I'll just quote my previous message since i've said it so many times already.

And about relic. I've seen people calling others racist as a stupid joke when theres nothin racist said. I didnt respond because i said nothing racist.

Re: Ridiculous ban

Posted: Sat 22 Jun , 2013 7:38 pm
by Azarael
Pelaaja wrote:I paid no attention to whether it was conjoined or not. It made no difference to me.
The prosecution rests.

If the other admins will accept that as an excuse given that the rules of English on adjectives are very clear and we have other examples of your speech here, then so be it. I've nothing further to say.