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Re: Decreasing playerbase

Posted: Thu 28 May , 2015 5:17 pm
by iRobot
I still like the game.

Re: Decreasing playerbase

Posted: Thu 28 May , 2015 6:15 pm
by CaptainXavious
Greedisgood wrote:Woah, thats getting intense ;'D'D
Ill just start dropping info here and there once the week is over. Whoever was going to contribute - better start doing it til we drown in drama. Videos, guides, pictures, cosplay, whatever. Balance is not the problem, complaining just became a habit for most. And the lack of players is merely a result of the absence of real initiative. I would struggle to find much info about the server even if i tried to. There are people out there who are looking for game like this, they just dont know where to knock. Put some doors around.
Cosplay? Seriously? Pretty sure that's not going to happen, like, ever, but still, these are all things the players can be doing for the server they love. We've enough shit to do and our motivation to do it is extremely low. There's a lack of reciprocity and a simmering hostility towards us devs, many of which ready to jump ship.

Re: Decreasing playerbase

Posted: Thu 28 May , 2015 8:36 pm
by Greedisgood
Cosplay? Seriously?
Nah, not seriously. Would you want your grandchildren to ever find that?

What would make the devs enjoy the deving once again? Bigger community? Less bitching? Im actually surprised that you are still caring about all the stuff being said - crying about the balance is like chatting bout the weather. I doubt that anyone besides the most gifted players is actually trying to offend the admins. No one is expecting you to pretend that you care about someone getting rekt and the reasons he blames that on you. Add whatever you feel like adding and let it flow. Most valuable feedback will get to the forum as intended anyway and the playercount is peaking as long as the changes keep coming.

Re: Decreasing playerbase

Posted: Thu 28 May , 2015 9:01 pm
by CaptainXavious
A new game is what it'd take to start caring about it again. A new game that has support for paid mods so I could get a bit of money for my time.

Re: Decreasing playerbase

Posted: Thu 28 May , 2015 9:04 pm
by Azarael
Some of the reasons I'm less motivated can be dealt with, others can't.

- Constant bitching, especially from certain players, with no ability to do anything about it
- Being blamed for loss of players with no or spurious evidence
- Reversion to crap maps
- Responsibilities in another community
- Loss of giZmo
- A feeling that all the effort spent attempting to innovate is wasted since complaints are the only result
- I'm not learning anything from coding for 2k4 anymore, and that's pretty much all I'm good for in the team

Re: Decreasing playerbase

Posted: Thu 28 May , 2015 9:43 pm
by Greedisgood
So a new game with paid mods is the new UT? As far as i remember, last time when it was discussed, it was said that it would take too much effort to move all the stuff. Did you change your mind? Switching to another game doesnt sound too bad to me, as long as the community doesnt fall apart. No other shooter feels the same at the moment, it would be a great loss.

Re: Decreasing playerbase

Posted: Thu 28 May , 2015 10:25 pm
by Azarael
The project for the new game won't be BallisticPro, as the BW assets aren't ours to use and there's a desire to modify the gameplay.

Re: Decreasing playerbase

Posted: Thu 28 May , 2015 11:59 pm
by iZumo
Azarael wrote:- Being blamed for loss of players with no or spurious evidence
The blame that goes on you is that you're not responding adequately to the loss of players.

For instance - how would you react on:
Aberiu wrote:4) wait for eternity until the rest of BW pro and other mods will be downloaded from the server
- just to realize that this is an ugly looking extremely complicated game where everyone is better than you.
?

Re: Decreasing playerbase

Posted: Fri 29 May , 2015 1:09 am
by Azarael
I'd say that's unavoidable.

What exactly would YOU do to solve that?

Re: Decreasing playerbase

Posted: Fri 29 May , 2015 3:02 pm
by Ollievrthecool
I have a few things to say.
After the first 2 Years of staying at LDG i got bored, i was getting sick and tired of the amount of complaints, drama and crybabies on the server who wanted what they wanted. Not all communities are the same but I can tell that not all communities are like little babies in toys'R'us. I was stuck because of my Shit PC. But Since i got my new Pc, i have moved onto bigger and better games such as Counter Strike, Killing Floor 2 and other games such as Civilization 5, and barely anyone cries over these games. I moved away for 2 Reasons, the community and the game itself. Blaming the content creators purely because of the lack of new or updated content is Bullshit. I can talk about Counter strike and CS-GO. Just the date of when they were made is a Massive difference.

On another note, whats the plan for Ut4 mods? I'm not going to call it Ballistic weapons since by what you said in your last post, it is going to be a completely new mod with interesting ideas.