LDG-Gaming

FYI I'm all for oldz weekend as long as I can actually be able to play an oldz map in the limited hours that I get to play on the weekend. I'm almost certain I'm not the only one that has this same issue.

If we can get the map votes point value in some way to make it a bit more fair ratio.. That'd be great.. As it sits right now like everyone said it favors race maps over oldz by a lot.. And to be honest.. mega fun vehicles vs oldz maps= about the same lameness.. So there isn't really any point having those points be so lopsided(with the exception of maps that are not effected by mega fun vehicles and as suggested those maps should be taken out of list for the oldz weekend). However for normal AS I would be ok with that having a higher point value over oldz and race maps.

Beat this dead horse over one more time.. In no way is mega fun more acceptable then oldz maps.. To me there both equally worthless. But fun none the less for 2 days.

darkelf wrote:Well some say stats don't lie but to me.. There is a clear sign that no one wants oldz weekend. For the times I played there was nothing but chain voting to do anything and everything to prevent oldz map being voted. If anything I would recommend changing out the playlist of race to only have maps that take use of megafun and give oldz a voting of at least 1. I think atm its .6.

There is a clear sign that darkelf didn't manage to play much OLDZ this weekend and rages.


OLDZ voting is like AS voting - if 0 out of 4 games were OLDZ, then it's on 1.00, otherwise it degrades.

what about disable vote balance @ oldz weekend. Like the oldz way?

I'm not sure if that would really be productive. We can raise the weight to what AS has though (1.0 when 0/4, 0.8 when 1/4, otherwise 0.6). The point of underweighting of OLDZ is to allow some circulation between it and other modes.

I truly believe that the system for the 2 days a month oldz weekend is flawed and a waste of time if you can't enjoy the few maps for 2 days. It's oldz weekend. The whole idea of this to my understanding is to convert server to a former race/as state of old style unmodified poorly ruled atmosphere.

Currently its confusion of rules, multiple game types, Mega fun vehicles mod (Note:that this modification was only map specific in old race days and now forced on all race maps) and "balanced point map voting". This isn't oldz weekend this is hypocrisy weekend. I see things as black and white. Its my character trait. This drives me insane. I very much so would like to see it as an oldz map list weekend or just normal weekend. However I can see that if this were to happen.. The idea will fall flat on its face and die quickly.

It would be a fair assessment to say that there is no way to make this mega fun oldz weekend a cheerful time for all players. Half will say make it purely an oldz weekend only. The other half will like the fact that they can play normal maps without any oldz weekend nonsense. Its a compromise I can understand but ultimately its causing the split in our community to be at each others necks. So my conclusion is this..Is mega fun oldz weekend really worth having if its going to continue splitting the community.

Side note:

Izumo_CZ wrote: There is a clear sign that darkelf didn't manage to play much OLDZ this weekend and rages.

I don't like this idea of "trolling" every complaint that is given about the server. This isn't the first time. Its quickly becoming the normal and also being encouraged. This is why we keep having little to no complaints. Its easier to just rage quit or leave instead of facing bullying for bringing decent complaints up. FYI if you haven't noticed. I'm pretty furious at the moment with this mentality of trying to discredit someone by making fun of them. It's a tasteless and a childish behavior.

From my side on next OLDZ weekend I'll remove all my Scorpion trial maps and Sunshine. Because I share the point of view that normal Nitro/Race maps (that arent affected by Megafun), which we can play everyday, shouldnt be on the list during that particular weekend.

I share Darkelf's point of view. At the beginning I wasn't in favour of Megafun but I've been told "it's only for 2 days in a month, why care" so I stopped caring and let it go. Therefore at this point, we should try a OLDZ/Megafun only next month. The question would be should regular AS maps stay or not.

I would rather support 1.0 OLDZ vote at all times. If a vote for a standard RACE map passes on OLDZ weekend, why shouldn't the map voted be played?

Also, there is no reason to remove AS. OLDZ is targeted at the race community.

Socio wrote:From my side on next OLDZ weekend I'll remove all my Scorpion trial maps and Sunshine. Because I share the point of view that normal Nitro/Race maps (that arent affected by Megafun), which we can play everyday, shouldnt be on the list during that particular weekend.

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