Submachine Guns
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Submachine Guns
Submachine guns are going to be moved to the main weapon slots. Shotguns are being passed over because of the availability of powerful close range weapons in the sidearm category, and certain players are able to play the game off SMGs.
Do you want the sidearm slot to be pistols only or to be converted to a third weapon slot?
Do you want the sidearm slot to be pistols only or to be converted to a third weapon slot?
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Re: Submachine Guns
my choice would be: pistols only in the sidearm slot
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In a coat of gold or a coat of red, a lion still has claws,
And mine are long and sharp, my lord, as long and sharp as yours.
And so he spoke, and so he spoke, that lord of Castamere,
But now the rains weep o'er his hall, with no one there to hear.
Yes now the rains weep o'er his hall, and not a soul to hear.
Only a cat of a different coat, that's all the truth I know.
In a coat of gold or a coat of red, a lion still has claws,
And mine are long and sharp, my lord, as long and sharp as yours.
And so he spoke, and so he spoke, that lord of Castamere,
But now the rains weep o'er his hall, with no one there to hear.
Yes now the rains weep o'er his hall, and not a soul to hear.
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Re: Submachine Guns
When pistols would be available in primary and secondary slots, I'd have nothing against a tertiary slot with pistols in it as well (of course with disabling dual-wield, since pistols are that strong).
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shotguns being passed over because they suck ass with all the nerfs, and reloads take too long.
lol 5+ second reload time on certain shotguns compared to <1 sec on some AR's, when they both do comparable DPS, not to mention AR's work fine at range (game design or not, they work too far away) and shotguns will just tickle someone if they aren't in the same room as you.
Shotguns:
ARs:
Sidearm Hand Cannons:
lol 5+ second reload time on certain shotguns compared to <1 sec on some AR's, when they both do comparable DPS, not to mention AR's work fine at range (game design or not, they work too far away) and shotguns will just tickle someone if they aren't in the same room as you.
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Sidearm Hand Cannons:

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Agree with that little mouse^^
Sidearm for pistols.
Sidearm for pistols.
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Re: Submachine Guns
My impression is that with a third general weapons slot you can remove the pistols from the game. Why would you choose a pistol as your third weapon when you could spam with e.g. an M50 instead?Mecha wrote:When pistols would be available in primary and secondary slots, I'd have nothing against a tertiary slot with pistols in it as well.
kinda trueMecha wrote:shotguns being passed over because they suck ass with all the nerfs, and reloads take too long.

How about swapping the SMGs in the sidearm slot with the shotguns?
And who are you, the proud lord said, that I must bow so low?
Only a cat of a different coat, that's all the truth I know.
In a coat of gold or a coat of red, a lion still has claws,
And mine are long and sharp, my lord, as long and sharp as yours.
And so he spoke, and so he spoke, that lord of Castamere,
But now the rains weep o'er his hall, with no one there to hear.
Yes now the rains weep o'er his hall, and not a soul to hear.
Only a cat of a different coat, that's all the truth I know.
In a coat of gold or a coat of red, a lion still has claws,
And mine are long and sharp, my lord, as long and sharp as yours.
And so he spoke, and so he spoke, that lord of Castamere,
But now the rains weep o'er his hall, with no one there to hear.
Yes now the rains weep o'er his hall, and not a soul to hear.
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Re: Submachine Guns
Well, shotguns were nerfed because people cried thick tears over the M763. While shotguns do have a ridiculous reload time from empty, they deal frontloaded damage and should be reloaded after every kill (1/2 shots).
Pistols have their own role and could actually go into every slot. Their hipfire is very accurate.
Pistols have their own role and could actually go into every slot. Their hipfire is very accurate.
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They no longer deal the damage to kill in two shots unless you are botting and hit twice dead center.


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Re: Submachine Guns
Shotgun base power ranges from 110 to 130 with a max health of 175.
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Because I am the only numbskull who doesn't know how to spam.Pinky wrote:Why would you choose a pistol as your third weapon when you could spam with e.g. an M50 instead?
If my pistol ammo is empty, I switch to A-73 in semi-auto mode or go melee with it. Same goes for any other weapon which can be changed to semi-atuo mode (and melee). So why not have another pistol fitting for the situation instead?
That's just me, I like playing with certain handicaps.
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