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Longhorn 'Instagib' Repeater
Posted: Fri 16 Aug , 2013 2:44 am
by Calypto
The alt fire does 180 damage upon full hits, which makes it a superior shotgun. It also has near perfect hipfire which makes it even more superior of a shotgun.
Re: Longhorn 'Instagib' Repeater
Posted: Fri 16 Aug , 2013 10:39 am
by iRobot
I honestly could not tell a difference between using sights and hipfire.
Sure, it's not a reliable weapon in that it's horrible at range, but as said above, get into shotgun range and you wonder what a shotgun is for.
Re: Longhorn 'Instagib' Repeater
Posted: Fri 16 Aug , 2013 2:12 pm
by Butcher
Re: Longhorn 'Instagib' Repeater
Posted: Fri 16 Aug , 2013 2:38 pm
by Azarael
The Longhorn has a forced fire delay of over 1 second because it cocks after every shot. If you have a suggestion for how to make its altfire work without oneshotting people, feel free to give it instead of saying "lolz its op gonna whore it
DDD"
Re: Longhorn 'Instagib' Repeater
Posted: Fri 16 Aug , 2013 3:14 pm
by iRobot
Drop the alt fire from 6x30 to 4x35. Comparable with shotguns then.
Re: Longhorn 'Instagib' Repeater
Posted: Fri 16 Aug , 2013 3:38 pm
by Azarael
Longhorn grenades contain 6 clusters. 4x35 -> 140 -> no one shot with twice the fire delay and projectiles -> worse than all shotguns.
An arming delay can be added to prevent absolute close range oneshots.
Re: Longhorn 'Instagib' Repeater
Posted: Fri 16 Aug , 2013 5:04 pm
by Butcher
The "1 shot 1 kill" option, in my opinion, makes any weapon OP. All the tears come from such weapons.
For example:
1) Longhorn secondary
2) Nano
3) Railgun (along the thermal view)
4) M290
5) Plasma cannon
6) FP7 , T10, Pineapples*.. bombs in general
7) Redwood slug?? maybe
The ones in 6), are correct in my opinion, one grenade boom shall kill you but the rest (1-5,7) of weapons become OP.
How to fix it:
Reduce damage to the border of not kill with one but 2 shots when an opponent is full health.
Re: Longhorn 'Instagib' Repeater
Posted: Fri 16 Aug , 2013 5:25 pm
by Azarael
I've specifically addressed this multiple times, can we all please read it this time:
The Longhorn will not drop to a straight two shot kill weapon at all ranges. The Longhorn's firing delay (forced by the cocking animation) is so great compared to the shotguns that the altfire will basically be a projectile shotgun with half the DPS.
It simply is not going to happen. Come up with something that doesn't wreck the firemode completely.
Re: Longhorn 'Instagib' Repeater
Posted: Fri 16 Aug , 2013 5:52 pm
by iRobot
Damage increase over range, so point blank right clicking isn't so free?
Then it can be used to pepper an area as it's seemingly intended.
Re: Longhorn 'Instagib' Repeater
Posted: Fri 16 Aug , 2013 6:10 pm
by pilau
Good thinking. How about increasing the spread so it is less accurate?