MasterOfRais
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I want to see the shortcut in question, I haven't seen it yet. So I'll reserve my final suggestion, till I have seen the shortcut.
However I can say if this is a short cut that cuts off minutes of the track and map maker wants to keep it, then it needs to be made visible that its possible or arrows showing alternate paths kinda thing. Basically if it stays it needs to be a known path and not a secret path. Not fair if it remains a secret to main population and only 1-5 know of it.
If its just a few seconds short cut, then I could careless.
However I can say if this is a short cut that cuts off minutes of the track and map maker wants to keep it, then it needs to be made visible that its possible or arrows showing alternate paths kinda thing. Basically if it stays it needs to be a known path and not a secret path. Not fair if it remains a secret to main population and only 1-5 know of it.
If its just a few seconds short cut, then I could careless.
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Basically the shortcut is the same than the other master rais where you have to use the wall to get to the upper part. But yeah it skips half of the map. Thinking about it now, I don't know what would be the best, showing it to everybody or blocking it...
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I strongly disagree with Bono here adding map back.
Those glitch was not supposed to be a shortcut. And nobody using it (only knoffer).
Basically there is even a 'stop' sign (as on the other parts of the map) showing people where u need to change car direction/stop/not use nitro not to fell off the track/etc.
And we have tons of maps which were changed due to even smaller shortcuts (like making track shorter in 30 seconds). And here is thing which lets you skip half of track, which is real mistake of mapper.
Not talking about cow gun which is the best weapon for teamkill..
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Those glitch was not supposed to be a shortcut. And nobody using it (only knoffer).
Basically there is even a 'stop' sign (as on the other parts of the map) showing people where u need to change car direction/stop/not use nitro not to fell off the track/etc.
And we have tons of maps which were changed due to even smaller shortcuts (like making track shorter in 30 seconds). And here is thing which lets you skip half of track, which is real mistake of mapper.
Not talking about cow gun which is the best weapon for teamkill..
![Image](https://cloclo21.datacloudmail.ru/weblink/thumb/xw1/3Rcz/fNJWVRuJF/Shot00005%20%281%29.bmp)
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I just played the map on mod server and now have seen the shortcut.
There is no question about this.. this shortcut completely cuts off 1/3rd of the map or more. Also as Eify has said above, it clearly has a sign indicating not to go that direction.
Discussed this with Knoffer and he has agreed that this shortcut needs fixing and plans to fix that along with fixing some of the lighting in this level as well.
So my opinion ATM, we can do the following:
A. Leave map in rotation while knoff works on edits to map and keep an eye out for any one abusing this shortcut and deal with them according to server rules.
B. Remove map out of rotation till fixes have been made.
I'm ok with either one atm, however If it the shortcut comes well known and used frequently then option B would be necessary.
There is no question about this.. this shortcut completely cuts off 1/3rd of the map or more. Also as Eify has said above, it clearly has a sign indicating not to go that direction.
Discussed this with Knoffer and he has agreed that this shortcut needs fixing and plans to fix that along with fixing some of the lighting in this level as well.
So my opinion ATM, we can do the following:
A. Leave map in rotation while knoff works on edits to map and keep an eye out for any one abusing this shortcut and deal with them according to server rules.
B. Remove map out of rotation till fixes have been made.
I'm ok with either one atm, however If it the shortcut comes well known and used frequently then option B would be necessary.
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We dont have admin present 24/ for looking for abusers especially after we taught everyone here how to glitch ._.
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I didn't see those pictures until now. Must of been edited when I made my post or I completely didn't see them. So, option B would be my vote now.
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Ye.. i added them a bit later.
SS of glitch point and parts of the track u can skip (both floors).
Myself i vote for B aswell.
SS of glitch point and parts of the track u can skip (both floors).
Myself i vote for B aswell.
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Do you think that many people read the forum and saw how to glitch?
But remove it if you want. I just hope Knoff won't take forever to fix it though.
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It's literally a five minute fix with a kill zone and a warning sheet.
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