Decreasing playerbase

[iZumo]

I think Socio could convert Highlander to AS Map

[Azarael]

Implying I'd be trolled, don't even play anymore

[Mecha]

don't even play anymore

I may sound like an asslicker here, but I am slowly but steadily losing interest in playing on LDG as well. Each time I join the server it's like a trial of patience until I rage instead of just having fun, I am getting fed up with this and the daily bullshit that's adding to it. What's the situation now? People found out CX, CYLO and M46 are the only kings of assault rifles because CX is accurate as fuck with easy hipfire, CYLO has basically a bottomless magazine AND is strong and M46 because of its mines that grant free kills which are often hard to notice and the general strength + accuracy alone, X83 is the only viable sniper rifle able to instakill with headshots alone and shotguns never hit or kill their target unless you are a pro (MK781 is the worst offender of this). Results are simple: cheapass tactics that involve being jumping and spamming down from above, effective W+LMB and stupid deaths caused by random spam. I am speaking of a low-skiller perspective here, I say what I experience every day.

@ HL: Highlander is a horribly designed map for Freon. The hill areas offer many opportunities to camp, the tunnels are basically the same nightmare as in UrbanHotZone 2 (yes, the old one with the corridor and teleporter) and there is alot height advantage just to be a dick to the other team by spamming down everything you have. This map is crap, people just don't know it (yet).

[Capaco]

The new tactic for highlander is now to camp on hills with 2-3 ppl on 2 sides and have this shield from the wrench. May be fun for one round trying killing them, then not anymore.

[Aberiu]

I say thanks Yan for his vid, I combined his wrench abuse with FSSG and voila, people are getting punished for voting highlander! What they don't realise though is that the true power of wrench is coming from the ammo crate, shields can be easily destroyed.
Pro tip: take smoke grenades with you and you can pick off helpless n00bs in IR mode :)

[giZmo]

>Punishing ppl for maps YOU dont like to play and ppl are wondering why playercount is decreasing....

[iZumo]

don't even play anymore

I may sound like an asslicker here, but I am slowly but steadily losing interest in playing on LDG as well. Each time I join the server it's like a trial of patience until I rage instead of just having fun, I am getting fed up with this and the daily bullshit that's adding to it. What's the situation now? People found out CX, CYLO and M46 are the only kings of assault rifles because CX is accurate as fuck with easy hipfire, CYLO has basically a bottomless magazine AND is strong and M46 because of its mines that grant free kills which are often hard to notice and the general strength + accuracy alone, X83 is the only viable sniper rifle able to instakill with headshots alone and shotguns never hit or kill their target unless you are a pro (MK781 is the worst offender of this). Results are simple: cheapass tactics that involve being jumping and spamming down from above, effective W+LMB and stupid deaths caused by random spam. I am speaking of a low-skiller perspective here, I say what I experience every day.

@ HL: Highlander is a horribly designed map for Freon. The hill areas offer many opportunities to camp, the tunnels are basically the same nightmare as in UrbanHotZone 2 (yes, the old one with the corridor and teleporter) and there is alot height advantage just to be a dick to the other team by spamming down everything you have. This map is crap, people just don't know it (yet).

I wonder if the reason of that is just a rage, poor balance, or too high game complexity / demand for skill.

I say thanks Yan for his vid, I combined his wrench abuse with FSSG and voila, people are getting punished for voting highlander! What they don't realise though is that the true power of wrench is coming from the ammo crate, shields can be easily destroyed.
Pro tip: take smoke grenades with you and you can pick off helpless n00bs in IR mode

Am I supposed to take that you're glitching in order to deliberately shorten the game in the map?

[focus]

We have 29 pages of talking about playerbase decrease here.
But what are the actions on that matter?

[iZumo]

Quoting iRobot's post at the very beginning of the thread (post 2 May 2014) and how it changed till today:

Attacking weaker players all the time;
Forcing them to aim when they either don't want to or are not comfortable doing so. Belittling people for their weapon choices. Grading people as spammers or shitters because they play differently. Perhaps let them play as they please.
No action taken. (instead weaker players got handicap in KS and moved even more away from "spammers" and "shitters" i.e. no ammo resupply after being defreezed)

Skill system;
Well documented, but to restate, ‘in your face’ reminders about how good/bad you are at the game doesn’t really achieve much other than de-motivating you. Once again, stating intent at removing any visible presence in game or on forum.
Action taken.

Map changes;
Removal of ‘popular locations’ on maps, and map changes in general. Particularly on community favourites. Maybe revert these changes – such as Osiris?
No action taken.

Lack of updates;
New weapons keep it fresh. This is completely at mercy of the few dedicated individuals who are creating content for free – so while it’s unfair to be unhappy at the pace, people want new things. Maybe introduce some of the previously ‘cut’ weapons.
Action taken.

Voting weights;
People unable to vote certain maps when they want. Possibly due to the repeat limit / excessive weighting on some choices. Reduce repeat limit perhaps?
Neutral

Izumo's reply back then: https://ldg-gaming.eu/viewtopic.php?p=28616#p28616

[Azarael]

Attacking weaker players all the time;
Forcing them to aim when they either don't want to or are not comfortable doing so. Belittling people for their weapon choices. Grading people as spammers or shitters because they play differently. Perhaps let them play as they please.
No action taken. (instead weaker players got handicap in KS and moved even more away from "spammers" and "shitters" i.e. no ammo resupply after being defreezed)

Bullshit. Harassment of weaker players mostly stopped - those who receive shit make themselves targets through constant complaining (one person in mind.) Thaw speed and KS thresholds both use the skill value to be more favorable to weaker players. Pressure from higher skilled players regarding the amount of spam that was going on led to ammo tracking, which existed in regular Freon as well - we just didn't have support for it.