Z-250 serves me well. At least I have a fucking chance against all the pros and high-skillers who probably know me only as easy farm kill and shit. I'm tired of using pea-shooters like MARS-3, this my main weapon for now because it feels good NOT to die every two minutes after thawing and score some good net.
Re: Ballistic Bro Changelogs Discussion
Posted: Sat 06 Dec , 2014 1:50 am
by Butcher
mars 3 is good... just use iron sights first and shoot controlled... bit slow on reload
Re: Ballistic Bro Changelogs Discussion
Posted: Sat 06 Dec , 2014 2:32 am
by Aberiu
So here's the video I promised. It's long and boring so I cut out some thawing and wandering around, however I left all my fuckups and suicides in so you can judge the effectiveness of the weapon yourself.
Asbestos-specific spam happens around 03:25 and 12:30. This is what Z250 is good for, other than that most of the time I felt an urge to switch to AK because it's way more flexible and fits my playstyle better. The only reason I kept shooting people at close range with Z250 was because I wanted to record a video showcasing new weapon. M353 is a better choice in most cases if you ask me.
Another reason why I'm skeptical about Butcher's, Earl's and Ehi's complaints is that none of them tried the weapon before posting their concerns. Butcher however tried it later on Deck-17 for a few rounds without much success and ended up switching to some shotgun and describing Z250 as "boring weapon".
Ehi also seems to have more problems with me personally than with weapons I use ("noob", "aberiu much suck" etc.); considering his overall childish attitude and the fact that the only weapon he uses is SRS, I wouldn't take this into account.
Re: Ballistic Bro Changelogs Discussion
Posted: Sat 06 Dec , 2014 3:38 am
by Rymosrac
Aberiu wrote:words
I'm a jackass and I approve this message.
Re: Ballistic Bro Changelogs Discussion
Posted: Sat 06 Dec , 2014 3:53 am
by Azarael
From watching that, the only thing I take issue with is the grenade; it currently uses the RX22A's damage stats and will cook anything inside while lasting for quite a long time.
Re: Ballistic Bro Changelogs Discussion
Posted: Sat 06 Dec , 2014 11:02 am
by Earl_Vencar.:LLS:.
I retract my previous comment, I was too angry to properly deal judgement. But 6:10 shows my point nicely - 82 and 55 damage per shot? What chance do other weapons have? The DPS isn't lower and the recoil certainly isn't lower than the FG50. You are right: the self damage is high, but compared to the FG50 you seem to be able to get in pretty close without taking it (your final shot of 55 was within 5 metres yet you took no self-damage). But I admit now that I was dying pretty quick because two or three players were shooting it at once - I don't seem to be able to see the bullets/flash/whatever too well on low settings.
Re: Ballistic Bro Changelogs Discussion
Posted: Sat 06 Dec , 2014 1:22 pm
by Aberiu
It was 38+55+82, average damage is 50+, which can be clearly seen through all the video. You picked one moment that made you mad and yet you had good chances to kill me - if you landed one more shot while I was spraying wall behind you with bullets, if you didn't approach heavy machine gun from front, especially knowing that I noticed you and started to spin the barrels, if you picked an easier to handle weapon etc. Most of the time you died because you didn't pay attention. Once again, did you try the weapon yourself? This really should be made a rule for posting feedback.
Re: Ballistic Bro Changelogs Discussion
Posted: Sat 06 Dec , 2014 1:27 pm
by Definitelynotjay
Butcher wrote:mars 3 is good... just use iron sights first and shoot controlled... bit slow on reload
If you say so, mate.
Re: Ballistic Bro Changelogs Discussion
Posted: Sat 06 Dec , 2014 1:47 pm
by Earl_Vencar.:LLS:.
Aberiu wrote: average damage is 50+
Aberiu wrote:spraying wall behind you
You've summed it up well here: hold down the trigger, spray and pray; ok the majority of the bullets will miss, but when you're hitting with 50+ who cares? And yes, I tried out the weapon the previous evening, but only at long range (I only play with random weapons). But then again, the M353 is just as bad for short-range DPS and the other minigun even worse so: if a player is hitting a 30 to 40 net each game using these weapons, sure they're not going to complain. I'm just not finding this gametype particularly fun at the moment, and my threshold towards abandoning this format is lowering daily.
And I don't appreciate personal attacks on a public forum, thanks, towards anyone.
Re: Ballistic Bro Changelogs Discussion
Posted: Sat 06 Dec , 2014 1:53 pm
by ehihehih
"....Z-250 is a spammer's dream. Damage is ridiculously high with much less recoil than the other machineguns...."
.... incredible how he can be so agree with Earl. The shot secondary, it is even more embarrassing, too powerful and too extensive.
Azarael: leave a weapon op because there are choices maps spam has no logic.
Aberiu: for me the only big ability that you have is to use great (very great) weapons spam op. For the rest, you're being ridiculous both as a player and as a creator of weapons. Closed the speech with you.
Mecha: completely agree with you. I think weapons such as Z250 make for you the game much more fun. For me, you could do a test, let's use it, only to players with low skills.