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Re: Ballistic Bro Changelogs Discussion
Posted: Fri 02 Aug , 2013 4:35 pm
by iRobot
Butcher wrote:iRobot wrote:The calculation is fine. Skilled players spend more of their playtime alive, and therefore have more opportunity to thaw. By staying alive longer, they are often the last alive, and therefore have even more opportunity to thaw.
Besides, I could argue that you suiciding yourself to thaw someone gains the team nothing, even though you gain thaw points by doing so.

.. calculation is bull shit...
So take a healer:
172. pupimassa 1359 1907 502.63 0 4.94
He literally spends the game healing people and Thawing
T/D=0.263571054*2.5= 0.658927635
So you thaw more than the Healer with the HMC...

Yes, and dies more than he kills (no offense intended). Therefore spends most of the round spectating other players.
If you actually watched me playing instead of bitching continuously at me you'd see I thaw people all the time.
Re: Ballistic Bro Changelogs Discussion
Posted: Fri 02 Aug , 2013 4:57 pm
by Butcher
iRobot wrote:
Yes, and dies more than he kills (no offense intended). Therefore spends most of the round spectating other players.
Perhaps you need to see it in a graph:
attached 100 people statistic of K/D and T/D..
The fact that the chart T/D is almost constant means it does not Affect the skill level as a function...
iRobot wrote:
If you actually watched me playing instead of bitching continuously at me you'd see I thaw people all the time.
I do watch what you do in the game, when you are in my team, and I DO NOT see you thawing as much as you claim you do. I've been checking specifically you in the game to see why and how you have the 1st position.

Bitching to you... pfff... I play with a joystick, not a kb i.e. I do not type in game fast... how can I bitch...to youu...

Re: Ballistic Bro Changelogs Discussion
Posted: Fri 02 Aug , 2013 5:08 pm
by Azarael
>choosing to play fps games without both a keyboard and mouse
I'll never understand. Ever.
Re: Ballistic Bro Changelogs Discussion
Posted: Fri 02 Aug , 2013 5:13 pm
by Butcher
Azarael wrote:>choosing to play fps games without both a keyboard and mouse
I'll never understand. Ever.
I use the mouse to aim... but the js control to move... I used to play with a kb, but started getting tendinitis and pain in my hand and wrist... so I just took a control

Re: Ballistic Bro Changelogs Discussion
Posted: Fri 02 Aug , 2013 5:14 pm
by iRobot
So from your graph I thaw consistently the same as other players. Where has your argument gone that I don't thaw?
It's melted

Re: Ballistic Bro Changelogs Discussion
Posted: Fri 02 Aug , 2013 5:33 pm
by Oska
This is more likely a plot than a graph.
But an interesting one.
What kind of figure is it?
Re: Ballistic Bro Changelogs Discussion
Posted: Fri 02 Aug , 2013 5:34 pm
by Butcher
iRobot wrote:So from your graph I thaw consistently the same as other players. Where has your argument gone that I don't thaw?
It's melted

I can see you ain't very good with math...
The fact that the ratio T/D is constant means that the change of the ratio does not affect the result. Does Not mean that you thaw as much as anyone...
That is only reflected when you see the graph T/(K+T+D) and clearly, you ain't close to that.
Re: Ballistic Bro Changelogs Discussion
Posted: Fri 02 Aug , 2013 5:38 pm
by Butcher
Just take the statistics page in
http://ldg-gaming.eu/phgstats/index.php ... &Column=14 copy paste the first 100 places and do 2 columns:
Kills/Deaths and Thaws/Deaths-> plot skill in the X axis and values in Y..

Re: Ballistic Bro Changelogs Discussion
Posted: Fri 02 Aug , 2013 5:41 pm
by iRobot
Your calculation is so rigged it's Las Vegas style.
Using T/(K+D+T), if I have 5 kills and 1 thaw and 1 death, I score worse than someone with 1 kill and 1 thaw and 1 death. It's pretty obvious that blue is a more value to the team than red.
Edit; to explain better, your calculation punishes any player with a high K per D, since it's easier to get 5 K per game than 5 D.
Re: Ballistic Bro Changelogs Discussion
Posted: Fri 02 Aug , 2013 5:50 pm
by Oska
Then what formula would be relevent? (-:
For every players:
Cute little plot :3
Skill histogram