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Melee commentary from changelog thread

Posted: Tue 20 Nov , 2012 4:20 am
by Calypto
Azarael wrote: Katana

Reduced range to 150.
Deals 140 damage.

X4 Knife

Reduced range to 108.
Increased damage to 180.
0/10 see me after class

Re: BallisticPro changelogs, discussion and trolling

Posted: Tue 27 Nov , 2012 2:58 am
by Calypto
Azarael wrote:A73 Skrith Rifle

Melee hits for 220
Time2newfavoritegun troll2

Re: BallisticPro changelogs, discussion and trolling

Posted: Tue 27 Nov , 2012 12:22 pm
by iRobot
Azarael wrote:XMV-850 Minigun

Holds 100 rounds instead of 150
Worthless

In other news, rather than melee being so front loaded and doing 220 dmg, could you not make it do something like 70 but have 3x the fire rate?

At least you could avoid it a little better rather than just being oneshot without any control.

Let's not beat around the bush here. Melee + Sprint is broken, considering you spawn with less than 220 hp then this is ridiculous.

Or perhaps rework melee entirely to again not be so front loaded, but apply a bleed on someone till the end of the round. 10/sec or something you feel apt.

Re: BallisticPro changelogs, discussion and trolling

Posted: Tue 27 Nov , 2012 1:46 pm
by iZumo
Usual defence against front melee is to spam back with anything, which oftenly works.

Re: BallisticPro changelogs, discussion and trolling

Posted: Tue 27 Nov , 2012 2:45 pm
by iRobot
In practice that is not the case.

Re: BallisticPro changelogs, discussion and trolling

Posted: Tue 27 Nov , 2012 3:31 pm
by Azarael
If melée doesn't one shot people, you will die.

Re: BallisticPro changelogs, discussion and trolling

Posted: Tue 27 Nov , 2012 4:00 pm
by iRobot
Give an innate damage reduction to melee users, similar to how you have deployed turrets?

Melee users wont be so fragile then, and there will be no need to have the ridiculous damage.

Melee would actually be an option for a full game that way rather than the "free kill or two" as it is now.

Re: BallisticPro changelogs, discussion and trolling

Posted: Tue 27 Nov , 2012 4:47 pm
by Azarael
That makes no sense and it will be abused. This is also the reason why you don't get an innate speed boost while holding melee; people will just use it as a mobility tool. Turrets were given damage reduction because before they were static emplacements with no actual defense boost, so didn't actually give any advantage when you consider how easy it is to hit a static target.

Given that none of us have seen how non-auto melee works out, let's hold the theorycrafting until we do?

Re: BallisticPro changelogs, discussion and trolling

Posted: Tue 27 Nov , 2012 4:54 pm
by iRobot
Implying having to click over autofire will make a huge difference to anyone with multiple brain cells.

Implying you don't theorycraft.

Re: BallisticPro changelogs, discussion and trolling

Posted: Tue 27 Nov , 2012 5:50 pm
by Azarael
Implying theorycraft is valid in light of such a change.